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		<title>By: Jason Fischer</title>
		<link>http://jasonfischer.com.au/some-cautious-thoughts-on-conflicts-and-fandom/#comment-70442</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jason Fischer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2014 04:54:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Okay, with all respect to those who have participated, I&#039;m (regretfully) going to have to shut down new comments in this thread. I don&#039;t want people to feel unsafe here, and I think things are starting to go circular anyway. Sorry, I&#039;m not usually for censoring people but I have to stop this now. Hope folks understand!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, with all respect to those who have participated, I&#8217;m (regretfully) going to have to shut down new comments in this thread. I don&#8217;t want people to feel unsafe here, and I think things are starting to go circular anyway. Sorry, I&#8217;m not usually for censoring people but I have to stop this now. Hope folks understand!</p>
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		<title>By: Alisa</title>
		<link>http://jasonfischer.com.au/some-cautious-thoughts-on-conflicts-and-fandom/#comment-70441</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alisa]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2014 04:45:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I might politely remind you Robert that we judged the Aurealis Awards in 2006 together. Your behaviour in that experience is why we have since never met in person (due to that threat of physical violence) and this is the last comment you will see from me to you.  I still have all those emails, perhaps you might have yours and you can review your threats which came in writing and which a third person witnessed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I might politely remind you Robert that we judged the Aurealis Awards in 2006 together. Your behaviour in that experience is why we have since never met in person (due to that threat of physical violence) and this is the last comment you will see from me to you.  I still have all those emails, perhaps you might have yours and you can review your threats which came in writing and which a third person witnessed.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Stephenson</title>
		<link>http://jasonfischer.com.au/some-cautious-thoughts-on-conflicts-and-fandom/#comment-70440</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2014 04:34:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[well you missed the claim that i was violent, and i did take offense... i see alisa has now removed it... you work in fiction jason and being generalistic is more than a difficult banner to fly.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well you missed the claim that i was violent, and i did take offense&#8230; i see alisa has now removed it&#8230; you work in fiction jason and being generalistic is more than a difficult banner to fly.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Fischer</title>
		<link>http://jasonfischer.com.au/some-cautious-thoughts-on-conflicts-and-fandom/#comment-70436</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jason Fischer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2014 04:12:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[PS for what it&#039;s worth, I think flare-up is a perfectly fine word to use in this instance- in fact it fits Sean&#039;s #3 definition perfectly &quot;when something begins or gets worse&quot;. There, done, language is mutable and beautiful and we can all get on with our day :-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PS for what it&#8217;s worth, I think flare-up is a perfectly fine word to use in this instance- in fact it fits Sean&#8217;s #3 definition perfectly &#8220;when something begins or gets worse&#8221;. There, done, language is mutable and beautiful and we can all get on with our day <img src="http://jasonfischer.com.au/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif" alt=":-)" class="wp-smiley" /> </p>
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		<title>By: Jason Fischer</title>
		<link>http://jasonfischer.com.au/some-cautious-thoughts-on-conflicts-and-fandom/#comment-70435</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jason Fischer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2014 03:59:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Okay, I&#039;m going to wade in with my Non-Fire Extinguisher now :-) again, I simply ask that people keep on topic and not start personal comments on my blog. For a post that started off couched in generalities, things have certainly derailed!

Again, very glad that people hold such passion for a thing they enjoy, but it disturbs me when people go to battle (which is somewhat ironic as that was the point of the original article).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, I&#8217;m going to wade in with my Non-Fire Extinguisher now <img src="http://jasonfischer.com.au/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif" alt=":-)" class="wp-smiley" />  again, I simply ask that people keep on topic and not start personal comments on my blog. For a post that started off couched in generalities, things have certainly derailed!</p>
<p>Again, very glad that people hold such passion for a thing they enjoy, but it disturbs me when people go to battle (which is somewhat ironic as that was the point of the original article).</p>
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		<title>By: Sean the Bookonaut</title>
		<link>http://jasonfischer.com.au/some-cautious-thoughts-on-conflicts-and-fandom/#comment-70434</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sean the Bookonaut]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2014 03:46:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yeah you did Firestarter  :P

We could play a game of dictionary definitions if you like :)

Flare-up

1. a sudden occurrence of flame

2. a sudden occurrence or expression of anger

3.  an occurrence in which something (such as violence or a disease) suddenly begins or becomes worse

Yes being ever so slightly facetious. :)

But as we are all mostly well disposed to each other, I didn&#039;t think there was anything in either of the uses of it, between us here.  So that&#039;s okay if we are all friends and we all sort of know each other and generally get along.  But this is all in public, in print, so...

As to self censorship, that&#039;s interesting.  Is it self censorship to modify your words so as to be as clear as possibly as to your meaning, to cause as little offense as possible?  Do you really feel there is an increase in the self - suppression of views? 

What first got me interested in all of this was tracking the changes to the reporting (reporting is generous, let&#039;s say the retelling) of the events surrounding the SFWA changes last year, how that story changed not only when those diametrically opposed to the changes retold the story but even when it was retold by neutral commentators.  If you never went back to the source material you were left with the impression it was all just a bit of a kerfuffle, over there, in America.  The retelling of that story continues to the point now where SFWA is credited with Jonathan Ross withdrawing (an extreme example).

We don&#039;t as a community report or record or criticize ourselves very well(professionally), probably because we are too small and its too hard to maintain journalistic detachment, when everyone knows each other.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah you did Firestarter  <img src="http://jasonfischer.com.au/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif" alt=":P" class="wp-smiley" /> </p>
<p>We could play a game of dictionary definitions if you like <img src="http://jasonfischer.com.au/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" class="wp-smiley" /> </p>
<p>Flare-up</p>
<p>1. a sudden occurrence of flame</p>
<p>2. a sudden occurrence or expression of anger</p>
<p>3.  an occurrence in which something (such as violence or a disease) suddenly begins or becomes worse</p>
<p>Yes being ever so slightly facetious. <img src="http://jasonfischer.com.au/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" class="wp-smiley" /> </p>
<p>But as we are all mostly well disposed to each other, I didn&#8217;t think there was anything in either of the uses of it, between us here.  So that&#8217;s okay if we are all friends and we all sort of know each other and generally get along.  But this is all in public, in print, so&#8230;</p>
<p>As to self censorship, that&#8217;s interesting.  Is it self censorship to modify your words so as to be as clear as possibly as to your meaning, to cause as little offense as possible?  Do you really feel there is an increase in the self &#8211; suppression of views? </p>
<p>What first got me interested in all of this was tracking the changes to the reporting (reporting is generous, let&#8217;s say the retelling) of the events surrounding the SFWA changes last year, how that story changed not only when those diametrically opposed to the changes retold the story but even when it was retold by neutral commentators.  If you never went back to the source material you were left with the impression it was all just a bit of a kerfuffle, over there, in America.  The retelling of that story continues to the point now where SFWA is credited with Jonathan Ross withdrawing (an extreme example).</p>
<p>We don&#8217;t as a community report or record or criticize ourselves very well(professionally), probably because we are too small and its too hard to maintain journalistic detachment, when everyone knows each other.</p>
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		<title>By: Amanda J Spedding</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Amanda J Spedding]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2014 02:42:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yeah, aah,  I also used flare up; not in an inflammatory way, but that was the word that flowed from my fingertips. Did I think about it? Not at all. Did I use it in its correct context? Yes. A &#039;flare up&#039; is a sudden increase in intensity. Would I change it considering the debate that&#039;s followed? No.  It was what it was.

A lot of emphasis has been placed on the words we use and the power they hold, and I&#039;m the first to agree that words should be chosen wisely. What I sometimes find... worrisome is the increasing need for what appears to be a form of self-censorship (yeah, that&#039;s probably going to come back and bite me on the arse). 

We&#039;re emotive beings, so the words we use are, more often than not, going to be emotive -- it&#039;s the nature of the beast. Are we getting to the stage that every blog or FB post, tweet, comment needs to be analyzed from every angle to ensure inclusivity for all before hitting the enter button? Certainly, there are words that are designed to be inflammatory (you can usually spot those pretty quickly), but the tone of an article/post in its entirety is also pretty easy to spot. I can tell when someone uses language to poke the bear, and I won&#039;t waste my time or my energy on someone looking for page-hits or notoriety for the sake of notoriety. I&#039;ve better things to do.

As a society, inclusivity is a right not a privilege.  As authors, editors and publishers, we make our living with words. Does this mean we&#039;re held to a higher standard? I&#039;d hope we&#039;re held to the same standard.  Equality goes across the board, no matter your race, gender, beliefs or sexual-preference. 

I&#039;m now sitting here wondering whether I should hit the &#039;post comment&#039; button, but as Robert said: once more into the breach...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, aah,  I also used flare up; not in an inflammatory way, but that was the word that flowed from my fingertips. Did I think about it? Not at all. Did I use it in its correct context? Yes. A &#8216;flare up&#8217; is a sudden increase in intensity. Would I change it considering the debate that&#8217;s followed? No.  It was what it was.</p>
<p>A lot of emphasis has been placed on the words we use and the power they hold, and I&#8217;m the first to agree that words should be chosen wisely. What I sometimes find&#8230; worrisome is the increasing need for what appears to be a form of self-censorship (yeah, that&#8217;s probably going to come back and bite me on the arse). </p>
<p>We&#8217;re emotive beings, so the words we use are, more often than not, going to be emotive &#8212; it&#8217;s the nature of the beast. Are we getting to the stage that every blog or FB post, tweet, comment needs to be analyzed from every angle to ensure inclusivity for all before hitting the enter button? Certainly, there are words that are designed to be inflammatory (you can usually spot those pretty quickly), but the tone of an article/post in its entirety is also pretty easy to spot. I can tell when someone uses language to poke the bear, and I won&#8217;t waste my time or my energy on someone looking for page-hits or notoriety for the sake of notoriety. I&#8217;ve better things to do.</p>
<p>As a society, inclusivity is a right not a privilege.  As authors, editors and publishers, we make our living with words. Does this mean we&#8217;re held to a higher standard? I&#8217;d hope we&#8217;re held to the same standard.  Equality goes across the board, no matter your race, gender, beliefs or sexual-preference. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m now sitting here wondering whether I should hit the &#8216;post comment&#8217; button, but as Robert said: once more into the breach&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Sean the Bookonaut</title>
		<link>http://jasonfischer.com.au/some-cautious-thoughts-on-conflicts-and-fandom/#comment-70428</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sean the Bookonaut]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2014 02:09:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To be quite fair, you never acted with anger towards Alisa.  I read you facebook post as being formulated out of a sense of frustration/anger because of the way you received those tweets.  You&#039;d acted in good faith and probably felt you were being criticized.  I rescind my use of  anger in describing that event, for doing exactly what I have pulled up others in the thread for.  And I apologize for my reframing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To be quite fair, you never acted with anger towards Alisa.  I read you facebook post as being formulated out of a sense of frustration/anger because of the way you received those tweets.  You&#8217;d acted in good faith and probably felt you were being criticized.  I rescind my use of  anger in describing that event, for doing exactly what I have pulled up others in the thread for.  And I apologize for my reframing.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean the Bookonaut</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sean the Bookonaut]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2014 02:03:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I thought we were all having a really grown up chat.   But as you point out this event is sorted, done and dusted.   Indeed the commentary has gone on longer than the event ever did.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought we were all having a really grown up chat.   But as you point out this event is sorted, done and dusted.   Indeed the commentary has gone on longer than the event ever did.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean the Bookonaut</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sean the Bookonaut]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2014 01:58:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I didn’t even think about that when I wrote it. &lt;--- This is sort of what I was getting at.  We all use phrases, cliche&#039;s, words without really thinking about it (see my mea culpa below).   Now I am sure that when Jason called this a flare-up he was using it as short hand and he wasn&#039;t trying to inflame anything.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn’t even think about that when I wrote it. &lt;&#8212; This is sort of what I was getting at.  We all use phrases, cliche&#039;s, words without really thinking about it (see my mea culpa below).   Now I am sure that when Jason called this a flare-up he was using it as short hand and he wasn&#039;t trying to inflame anything.</p>
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